We have a five-class Fediverse nowadays.

First class: Mastodon. It's what everyone knows (everyone outside of Lemmy at least). It's what more Mastodon users than not take for the one and only Fediverse and ActivityPub gold standard (while literally nobody outside of Mastodon does, go figure). And it's the only Fediverse server application which many Fedizens take for the entire Fediverse. (Lemmings don't refer to Lemmy as the Fediverse, although many are still completely unaware that Lemmy is connected to anything else.)

Second class: the stuff that looks like add-ons glued onto Mastodon to enhance Mastodon. Pixelfed, an Instagram clone glued to the Twitter clone as an add-on. PeerTube, a YouTube clone glued to the Twitter clone as an add-on. Loops, a TikTok clone glued to the Twitter clone as an add-on. WordPress, a blogging engine and content management system eventually glued to the Twitter clone. I guess you get the idea.

It's only up to the second class that Fediverse server software is generally recognised and accepted from the usual Mastodon-centric point of view.

Third class: other halfway well-known "clones" of or replacements for corporate online platforms that do not look like they're glued onto Mastodon as add-ons. This is limited to the Threadiverse (Lemmy, what's left of /kbin, Mbin, PieFed) as Reddit replacements and Friendica as "the" Facebook replacement.

Fourth class: anything that doesn't fall into the first three classes, but that has enough publicity. Like Bonfire and WriteFreely. Also, minimalist stuff for self-hosters like GoToSocial and snac. Hubzilla is ever so barely teetering on this class, if at all.

Basically, it's only up to the fourth class that Fediverse server software is known at all.

Finally, fifth class: the whole rest. I mean, why is Mastodon known as "the" Twitter alternative in the Fediverse if there are loads of others that are better, more powerful, sometimes even closer to Twitter in certain features? Why is Friendica known as "the" Facebook alternative in the Fediverse if Friendica's own creator has built a whole family tree of successors that outclass Friendica in various ways?

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pixelfed #PeerTube #Loops #WordPress #Threadiverse #Lemmy #/kbin #Mbin #PieFed #GoToSocial #snac #Bonfire #WriteFreely #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #MastodonCentricity #MastodonNormativity

@crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitätsposts Bonfire ist Hubzilla bei Wish bestellt.

Entweder ist Bonfire der schlechte Versuch, das Hubzilla-Rad neu zu erfinden, und zwar von Leuten, die gar nicht wußten, daß so etwas schon existiert, und zwar in gut. Guck dir die ganzen Leute an, die über Bonfire jubeln. Soweit ich das gesehen habe, sind das alles nur Mastodon-Nutzer. Und mindestens 75% aller Mastodon-Nutzer haben von Hubzillas Existenz noch nie gehört, geschweige denn davon, was Hubzilla kann.

Oder Bonfire ist der schlechte Versuch, in direkte Konkurrenz zu Friendica, Hubzilla und den Rest der Familie zu gehen, mit viel Blabla statt vernünftig funktionierender Software und mit den vielen Mastodon-Nutzern als Zielgruppe, die noch nie von Hubzilla gehört haben und auch Friendica nicht aus der Nähe kennen.

Praktisch alles, was Bonfire vollmundig verspricht und nach @Der Pepe (Hubzilla) ⁂s Erfahrungen immer noch nicht geliefert hat, hat Hubzilla schon vor gut zehn Jahren tatsächlich geliefert. Und wenn nicht vor gut zehn Jahren, dann im Laufe dieser zehn Jahre.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LangerPost #CWLangerPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Bonfire #Friendica #Hubzilla #BeiWishBestellt #AufWishBestellt

Kann mir jemand von den Fediverse Profis erklären, was das #Bonfire machen soll oder was es sein will? Aus dem Text hier sieht es für mich aus wie eine Kreuzung aus Funktionen die man mit Friendica, mit Misskey/Sharkey hat in einer Mastodon Optik? Kann man Bonfire auch auf eigener Hardware laufen lassen, usw.? #Bonfire #Fediverse

Moved to @bonfire@bonfire.cafe

2025-11-07 09:05:42

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Found 18 new servers and 37 servers died off since 3 hours ago.

23,741 servers checked. 13,885,500 Total Users with 1,657,714 Active Users today. Check out the stats!

New #fediverse servers found:

basidium.club a #mastodon server from Portugal
f2b4791d1555.7988276.xyz a #mastodon server from
geni.ceed.se a #misskey server from Private
social.knubbel.me a #gotosocial server from Germany
soap.abhishek-dhakal.com.np a #pleroma server from Private
cyboot.in.ua a #pleroma server from United Kingdom
sylvia.lol a #writefreely server from United States
beep.town a #mastodon server from Germany
mstdn.manas.website a #mastodon server from Canada
misskey.nicovrc.net a #misskey server from Private
bonfire.bat-pike.ts.net a #bonfire server from United States
kushaldas.se a #writefreely server from Sweden
attreno.fr a #mastodon server from Private
smugcat.moe a #sharkey server from France
lemmy.umucat.day a #lemmy server from Private
venture.smugcat.moe a #iceshrimp server from France
video.ncot.uk a #peertube server from United Kingdom
akkoma.spacehost.dev a #akkoma server from United States

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