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Anyone considering how to break the #StackOverflow #monopoly already? Any #federated alternative work in progress?
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Maybe #Lemmy could be one, although it is more famous as a Reddit alternative. I am not very familiar with it.
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I'm only aware of codidact.org but I dont think it is federated. At least it's open source.
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being federated in the way mastodon is, would make it hard to search.
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Federation ideas

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It would take ages… Firstly, you would need a well structured website. You would need many people filing entries. And then you have to push it through social media.
In Germany, I always use selfhtml.org for the basics of HTML, CSS and JS. For PHP, I mostly use php.net and only for specific questions I have to look somewhere else. Of course my answer is to be found on stackoverflow -.-
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Actually since yesterday I'm pondering about the idea to build a #federated version of stackoverflow, nothing written yet, I'm reading, researching.

Also, right now I was checking this stack exchange sqlite db under CC BY-SA 4.0 to check how useful and doable would be import this data and using as a base for the federated version.

Also wondering if we could use this data somehow to train our own opensource AI to help the community, but I'm do not have knowledge on LLM/AI things. Please if there is any expert I would appreciate the opinion on that.

seqlite.puny.engineering

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A better place to download the dump content, with more interesting tables, like the one with the Votes; the other link the dumped data only contains two tables Users and Posts. Right now downloading the whole data related with stack overflow, and will take some time due my humble home internet connection, so I didn't have the chance to take a look at the data, but I guess that's the interesting thing.

here:
archive.org/download/stackexch…

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there's codidact, which is somehow "open" but not federated. It was set up by disgruntled users after an earlier "incident" at SO.
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It used to be called "phpBB" used for domain specific knowledge communities.
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I'm not sure if a federated alternative would gain traction. Ever since chatGPT, I haven't really found a need to use stackoverflow.
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@Sibshops Yeah, LLMs are a bit different than Stack Overflow. Sure, they don't insult you for asking questions, but they can't refuse to answer, so will happily give you nonsense if they have no idea. Not entirely unlike some people... ;)
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Yeah, I know they give nonsense sometimes. The nice thing about using it to code is you can easily check their nonsense to see if it is right.

A lot of times you can tell them that this is nonsense and how to fix it and they will.

LLM's have not been very helpful with visual things like CSS or asking them to create an SVG. But with backend code they are pretty good.

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@Sibshops We asked about a knowledge base. LLMs will never replace this, because they can only reproduce, not answer new questions. They can be your resource intensive search feature for a knowledge base, but that's not what we are interested in.
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I'm not sure that a decentralized knowledge base is a good idea. It should look more like Wikipedia — run by a nonprofit organization, on open source software, allowing exporting dumps
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If anybody is attempting to - please design a system that doesn't reward egomaniac abusive moderators 😛
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I wonder how a truly Fediverse alternative to #StackOverflow would look like, given that #AskFedi is a thing.
If the questions would be normal ActivityPub messages (everyone can read them) with a common hashtag for subscribing/muting. And (public) answers from everywhere would show up one the page, but could be curated and amended on the target server, maybe we would already be close.
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Perhaps it would be feasible to extend codidact.com/ in this direction? (And it's preferrable to SO even as it is)
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blogs. They often have answers not found on stack overflow. And they can have answers from stack overflow(it appears this is legal now). Copied answers can have attribution,” and alternative/better presentation.

If search on Mastodon improves, bloggers who post here will have their answers discovered and commented on. Google will still rank them.

But the main point is that blog owners will continue to own their content and may even choose to block or even subvert ML spiders.

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There's topanswers.xyz/ as alternative, but I don't know of any #federated alternative yet.

Maybe @samcarter knows if that's something that have been discussed?

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what about dev.to as #StackOverflow alternative?

#AGPL #GPL #FOSS

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Well #lemmy with a dedicated decentraliced indexer like yacy.net/ but pirpose build and integrated could fill the gap.

So no there is project on it.

Well smal forges have a similar discovery disadvantage if compared to e.g
github.

So a P2P indexer that could be integrated per network and would get content by that network injected instead of stupid web crawl could solve that.

Similar as to how you can use milisearch and integrate it purpose build into projects.

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#Discourse is really sweet to host and it has a vast plugin community.
discourse.org/plugins

And themes to control what fields to expose
meta.discourse.org/c/theme/61

Fwiw, some of the discourse devs were in the original stack overflow team.

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answer.apache.org/ is very close to SO usability-wise, no plans for federation though
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lots of mentions of #Codidact, but it doesn’t look like anyone tagged @codidact Maybe they’ll have something to add.

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