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Als Antwort auf Susan Kaye Quinn 🌱(she/her)

The card game nerd in me sees this and wants to know what game they’re playing…

The solarpunk in me sees the rest of the article and thinks it makes a lot of sense. I have qualms with organic stuff, because I don’t think it follows the science well, but otherwise

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Als Antwort auf Susan Kaye Quinn 🌱(she/her)

It doesn’t matter what side of the fence you’re on, whether you think the fear of gmos is overblown or you believe we should all be homesteaders (and I myself have one foot in both camps), organic is a largely meaningless label that has varying sometimes contradictory definitions.
Als Antwort auf 🚲

@dx I'm not anti-GMO, but organic has a legal definition (at least until Trump decides to delete the regulations that govern the label).

There was a time when organic was a meaningless label, but that's not true now.

You can say that the certification process is corrupt or you can disagree with the certification as insufficient (or any number of other objections) but you can't say it doesn't exist. ("meaningless" is like saying it has no meaning yet it does) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_…

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Als Antwort auf Susan Kaye Quinn 🌱(she/her)

There is a whole "slow" movement; it began, i believe, with the slow food movement in Italy --- against "fast food ---, then I've heard slow city, and I did enjoy a lot a book called The Slow Professor, about "slow" universities. Good luck with your slow inquiries 😀
I would relate it to ecology in general, Epicureism, degrowth, anticapitalism, even, as speed and acceleration is such an important feature of capital circulation...
Als Antwort auf osfa_2030

@osfa_2030 that's pretty much what the wikipedia article says

I've been doing this for a while — in fact, I was thinking about writing up a podcast about all the changes I've made personally in pursuit of sustainable living — so I was surprised I hadn't heard of this before

Als Antwort auf Susan Kaye Quinn 🌱(she/her)

@osfa_2030

I love those mnemonics !
Thanks for this one

In french we have the "BISOU" (= kiss) method to avoid buying stupid things

B => Besoin (Need)
I => Immédiat (Immediate)
S => Semblable (Same)
O => Origine (Origin)
U => Utile (Useful)

Als Antwort auf Susan Kaye Quinn 🌱(she/her)

Sorry if my comment may have been inappropriate. I was just happy to find someone with an interest in the topic!! I feel mysejf it's such an important part of the change I had wanted in my life. Even if I also admire ppl with the capacity to do a lot with their time.
Now, I have had poor health for some time and slowness is a compulsory dimension in my everyday, and I somehow try to enjoy it.
Als Antwort auf osfa_2030

@osfa_2030 we definitely have to be careful about being inclusive with things like this, but it does feel like the right direction. And one of those things that if you find folks who *can't* do this (like it requires wealth or time you don't have because you have to work three jobs to survive) then that's an indicator where the cage is trapping us.

As I said to some young activists: I do the personal things so I can find the limits of personal action; that is where we must collectively act.

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wizardwes
@dx I mean, I can point you to past and ongoing research, but since I no longer have my university email, it may take me a bit longer to get access to articles and effectively check their funding sources. But the high level view I found was that it's best to use things like Integrated Pest Management, where you release predators into the field to handle pests, but that organic-certified pesticides did more harm to said predators than synthetic pesticides that were more targeted. It was also more beneficial to shrink field sizes to reduce monocultures, and instead plant different crops across the same area, which vastly increased biodiversity and reduced pest outbreaks, and reducing down to 6 hectares per crop didn't negatively impact efficiency. I did see some more favorable studies towards organic pesticides as well, but they had a lower efficacy overall than the above solutions. Would be happy to discuss more if we can have actual conversations about data instead of claims of propaganda.
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Als Antwort auf wizardwes

@wizardwes you’re singling out “organic pesticides” and that’s not at all what the original article talked about nor the previous comments, which were referring to the organic designation for produce/food, which has a specific meaning.

There are all kinds of regen ag practices that are great (not “organic pesticides”) and are fought by industrial ag propaganda. Including things like integrated pest management. So it sounds like you’re punching strawmen

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Als Antwort auf wizardwes

@wizardwes and no I’m not interested in arguing about how “organic produce is worse for the environment than non-organic” because that is straight industrial agitprop

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